03.08
Let’s get something straight … and I did not mean for that to be a pun. The worst thing you can probably call me is a homophobe. I mean its THE worst thing you can call me. Call me a motherfucker if you wish. I did in fact have sex with a woman who had kids before. Call me a bastard if you wish. I know my dad but I think it would be cool and anime if he wasn’t my real dad … and would explain a whole lot too. Call me a dick (I do have one), an asshole (I do have one), a douchebag (I do have one?), but just don’t, don’t call me a homophobe!
Why? Well, bad memories. Without getting too sappy, I have nearly lost friends due to homophobic violence. I have fought for homosexual rights, getting beaten up for my points of view, and the queer natures of myself and my friends. Some of my best friends are gay, and in fact my co-panelists are gay as well. I cannot truthfully say “I am a homosexual” because I am not, and though I am queer in other ways, I cannot assume to know what it is like to actually be gay and to deal with all that discrimination. However, I have dedicated my life to fighting for equality, even if I tell a few dick jokes along the way.
Why am I saying this? Well, ever since we started Disorganization XIII, there have been people who don’t agree with what we do. We flat out decided that we wouldn’t do panels like other panelists do. We wouldn’t do lectures that drone on and one. We would make our panels highly interactive. We would punctuate every important point with a joke if we could. First and foremost we wanted to entertain, because honestly, that is what most people go to an anime or videogame convention for, to be entertained. If we could impart some wisdom on our fans along the way, then that is just bonus for us.
Aside from that, we also swore to never censor ourselves. This, combined with our admitted tendency to do panels that are edgy, has led us to frequently reference queer culture in our panels. We talk about the motivations behind slash pairings in Fanfiction: From Mary Sue to Shakespeare. We talk about the tendency to make “not quite gay” characters in our RPG panel, and how it is rare for anyone to write a wholly openly gay character. We talked about the duality of Sora’s relationship with Riku and Sora’s relationship with Kairi in our Kingdom Hearts panel, as well as Axel’s relationship with Roxas and how this was complicated with Xion, and how either of these can be considered “queer” depending on how far you wish to stretch it. … and of course we make gay jokes in Spoiler.
However, this has all naturally caused a bit of a problem… and believe it or not it’s not the gay jokes that are causing the problem. We are prepared for that … honestly we are! We are TRYING to insult you in Spoiler: The Panel and somehow that is the ONLY panel people haven’t complained about!
For two years now, two separate people have called our panels homophobic. The first was a Kingdom Hearts panel, and the second was our RPG discussion panel. Both of these individuals posted and re-posted their opinions about our homophobic behavior on the internet, quoting us as saying things that were, quite frankly not true and even more frankly not even said in the first place.
It seems as if these individuals didn’t actually listen to our panels to begin with. They certainly didn’t listen to Rob’s brave tendency to admit his own homosexuality in front of a crowd. They certainly didn’t listen to any of our own experiences in helping the gay community. They certainly also didn’t listen to our disclaimer that said if you were overly sensitive about discussing topics such as, oh I don’t know, gay stuff, to be fucking blunt, that you shouldn’t be in the panel in the first place.
Quite frankly, it seems as if both of these individuals stretched our words to serve their purposes, simply because they didn’t like us! One individual took our analysis of Kanji Tatsumi from Persona 4 and said we called him nothing but a “flaming homosexual.” I went over our panel from that NYAF! We said nothing of the sort! We talked about how brave it was to write a character that has to deal with queer issues, and how a large part of his character revolves around coming to terms with his own feelings. We were even accused of calling characters “faggots” and “homos” and get this, upon review, not once, NOT ONCE, did we ever use the words “faggot” or “homo” in the panel. In fact, we never used ANY slang word for homosexual in ANY derogatory fashion. Later, he criticized us for saying Final Fantasy 12 was a bad game and frankly, going back over the panel, we didn’t even say that. Kirk and Jay both said that they thought it was a great game! In fact, while we posited that there were several flaws with the game, all of us played it to completion, and many of us enjoyed doing so.
The other individual bashed us about being anti-gay in our KH panel, and while we do admit we had a lot of gay jokes in that panel, we also addressed the upcoming sequels, talked about Nomura interviews, and much much more. We have to respect this one particular critic, because quite frankly he ALSO does panels and anyone who has the balls to step up and do panels is OK in our book, but his blog almost appeared as if he was begging for us to get in a fight with him. When we did three panels in a row at last years NYAF, he was astounded we didn’t try to start something with him up on stage. Honestly, we didn’t even know who he was! He made a statement about people being disgusted that we were going to Otakon, but we filled house at Otakon! It later turned out that these “people” involved only his close friend that he went to Otakon with. So he too was exaggerating things to serve his own purposes, and we weren’t even sure we knew what those purposes are!
A couple theories have been kicked around. Some of us think that this is all sensationalism. That perhaps hating on popular panelists will get more publicity than liking them. One of our critics did a panel on best and worst games of all time, and while he named Tetris as the best game of all time (and many of us are with you on that one), he named the worst game of all time as Final Fantasy 7, which… is just ludicrously insane, and quite biased against RPGs. Fuck, we even think Final Fantasy 7 is over-hyped, but … the worst game ever? Has this guy ever played ET for the Atari 2600? Has he ever played Superman 64? Has he ever played Desert Truck!?!? We couldn’t fathom him saying that for any reason other than to get a rise out of the audience, and perhaps he was hating on us for the same reason.
Now, just like anyone else in the convention scene, we are prepared for our lumps. Not everyone has to like us, and quite frankly we know a LOT of people will dislike us. However, there is a big difference between saying we suck and saying that we are a bunch of raving homophobes. In fact, it was even claimed that we would be in support of the Matthew Shepard beatings. This is NOT cool.
You see, even though the internet loves to shield us all with anonymity, there are very real repercussions to publishing your words. We at Disorganization XIII have never been ashamed of what we do and so we do not hide our real names at conventions. However, once we were accused of being homophobes with our real names attached to the article, several of our members started run in to trouble at their jobs, being questioned by their bosses and superiors about the allegations. Now, this was cleared up by simply showing the actual footage from the events and question, and through support from the staff and executive boards of the conventions we perform at, but it’s still fucking frightening. If we weren’t as responsible as we are with our record keeping and disclaimers, a random blog post like that could have cost innocent hard-working people their job, and that is just not right.
What could we have possibly done about this? We weren’t even going to mention this on our site until we started having to deal with real world consequences once more. We could have started a flame war, but that never accomplishes anything. We could have openly called out our attackers, but that would have just given them more attention. Heck, after we sought out some legal counsel, it even turned out that we had a pretty good case for suing for libel, but getting the law involved would be massively dick of us, and a long trial is not only expensive, it is potentially life ruining for either party involved. If we won, the best we could do is ruin some poor schmuck’s life who probably thought he was posting something totally innocent to an internet blog, much as we thought our panels were totally innocent as well. That wouldn’t make us better, in fact it would make us bigger dicks than we could possibly imagine.
The fact of the matter is, we can’t keep people from making defamatory or malicious comments about us, and since we wear the badges of “professional geek” proudly on our chest, we won’t stop using our real names too. We have repeatedly offered to have a public debate about the topic with our critics at a convention but both have turned us down. I don’t blame them, having the debate probably would prove nothing other than who is better at working a crowd, and since we already have the full support of several anime conventions and plenty of fans, a debate is pretty much a losing proposition.
So our only recourse is to just not be intimidated. Rob said it best after the first allegation when he said this was incredibly insulting to him. As a gay man, he found the fact that the anime community allowed him to talk about homosexual topics to be an inspiration. He, like myself, felt that we were being labeled homophobes simply because we had a panel that had the word “gay” in it. He was not going to be silenced about his own sexuality because other people felt uncomfortable about it. That is more homophobic than anything we could ever say.
If you search for Disorganization XIII on the internet, you can still find these articles, and whenever we Google ourselves … yes we are that vain … it is always depressing to see the amount of websites these articles have wormed their way on to. They will always be a stain on our convention record and that stain won’t come out. Lest their authors have a change of heart, we will always have to deal with the consequences including whatever drama may happen at work, increased difficulty in finding new jobs if our prospective employer sees those articles, and general animosity toward us by people who do not understand us and who have never even seen our panels in the first place.
So in response, we will handle this in the Disorganization XIII way. So, Rob himself has decided to create a new panel for our lineup this year, entitled “This Panel Is Gay”. The panel will be a serious discussion about the queer community in anime, manga, videogames, and geek culture. If you want to talk gay, let’s talk gay. I really want to hear you guys call a whole panel of gay and queer individuals homophobic for a third time. I really do.
I will unfortunately not be joining this panel, because quite frankly, I admit, I am scared. I have been called a homophobe and have had to deal with the consequences one too many times for my liking. I have an immense amount of respect for Rob, for being strong where I cannot be.
So, if you really want to know what it’s like being queer in the geek community, then check out our panel. I assure you it will be more than just another bunch of dick jokes.
… and remember. Words always have consequences, so think before you go accusing people of being bigots. Honestly, calling someone a fucking asshole is way more cathartic and has less real world repercussions anyway.
Don’t be a fucking asshole.
Until next time. Stay way past cool loyal fans. We will see you on the con circuit.
Angelo M. D’Argenio
Proud President of Disorganization XIII

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that’s very upsetting to here becuase as you have said you’ve never set out to be homophoic with any of Disorganization XIII’s work. You’ve just stood up and outwardly stated what many of us in fandom think but are to afraid to say. Really it seems the Japanesse enjoy a blur of the lines when it comes to relationships in anime and video games.
ack i’ve got to get to class I’ll post with more my thoughts later. I’m sure I’ll be quite ready to rant after the Theater meeting.
We would love to hear your thoughts Yami. I serious thoughtful discussion about this is exactly what the issue needs. I hope all of our fans, and even our critics can talk about this in an intelligent manner.
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
I can’t believe that people would go to such lengths when it comes to stuff that they cant’ deal with. I’ve only heard you guys once, so I can’t say much but from what I remember from last year’s NYAF, nothing you said came no where close as what the ppl you say described you as. That being said, I’ve got more respect for you all for doing things in the way you did in response to all the alegations. If I wasan’t chronically poor, under the limit and suffering from a lack of drunk hobos, I’d buy you all a drink. I am so not going to miss you guys at this year’s NYAF.
Unless I can’t get away from the L.A.R.P. In which case, I’ll have my friends slap me upside the head, then kick my ass for forgetting.
I did read that one guys article I’m shocked he had the nerve to post that on a professional site and even more disturbed he keeps it on his web page under the list of articles he’s written.
It seems like the people who make these comments are of a very different type of fandom than Disorganization XIII and even I feel they are a part of. They are the high holier than thou fans who now take everything to seriously because they’d landed themselves a job as a reporter or they’ve been fans since the days of trading VHS tapes. I can see how some sort of “professional writer” might take offence. You have taken the con panel and crossbred it with standup comedy. There are things shown that can’t be unseen. Spoiler does make me need to close my eyes at times. But I’m 22 someone talks a stab at my fandom I can take it. I don’t go condemning Uncle Yo because in his effort to express how anime is different than western cartoons he says don’t go holding it up to porky pig.
They’ve lost have Disorganization XIII sees as a strength and what makes the Spoiler series so great the ability to gather together with others and celebrate the insanity inherent in Anime, Videogames, and Comics.
While I haven’t attended any of your RPG panels, if I recall correctly the biggest stab you took at FFXII was describing the battle system in terms of strategy as “let you little sister hold the controller for you while you go make a sandwich”. I haven’t played that game for fear of it getting in the way of school work and I don’t trust AI characters after the auto reload in Kingdom Hearts 2 left me out of ethers.
Some panels are like the Fan fiction panel and the Kingdom Hearts one are based heavily on the type of people who are in the audience. The fans do try to bring up slash fic and the yaoi but as far as I remember from NYAF you more often than not look at and attempt to explain things objectively and not subjectively. You don’t say that slash fiction sucks because it man on man it’s bad because most of the writers have no real clue about what they are writing. The most enjoyable part of the panel is when you do go into how “Study in Emerald” and things like the star wars EU are basically fan fiction. You have the ability to look at things and explain them and there should be nothing wrong with you joking around in the process. God knows I’ve heard some raw stuff joked about by actual marvel comic writers at actual marvel panels at the New York Comic Con.
I like your post Yami, and I have to say what makes this all the more disturbing to us is the fact that many of us are “Professional Writers.” In fact, remove the quotes for me! That’s what I do! I write for a living! *cough http://www.30ninjas.com shameless self promotion cough*
Being professional doesn’t mean you have to be super serious. Fuck, being a professional means that you write for your audience! That’s what we do! We create a service in entertainment. We are entertainers. We aren’t professors that are here to give a lecture you are forced to listen to. We are here to entertain in what we think is a respectful manner.
Hell, it was our “professionalism” that made us start DO XIII in the first place. We say we are professional geeks becuase, well, partially becuase we get paid for this shit, but also becuase our duty is first and foremost to the fans. It’s that same professional attitude that seems to piss people off.
Alright, so I just happened across this site. I honestly know very little about Disorganization XIII but I was just creeping and came across this topic…I’m far from straight myself and I was curious what this would be about. All I can say is that the people calling you homophobics really need to look at themselves. It seems very hypocritical to me, and completely unjustified. I really feel like some people waste their freedom of speech by being such immature asses. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion and if they feel like your material is offensive to the gay community, that’s one thing. But you can’t make up facts because you like them more. Also, the douchebaggery should end when people’s jobs are at steak. I can’t believe some people don’t care if they ruin someone’s life, as long as they can continue to be a douche. Talk about selfish.
I wish I could be at the convention where Rob has his pannel. I would go to that in a heartbeat. I’m not sure what con he’s doing it at, so if it hasn’t happened yet then I wish him the best of luck with it.
Keep doing what you guys are doing.
The first showing will probably be at the New York Anime FEstival, October 8th-10th in New York City.
Although Otakon might greenlight us too.